How can you tell these are not LCWR sisters or dissenting sisters?
And did Judas inspire this Judas "Catholic" and his vision for the Church which has contributed to the greatest crisis in the Church since the early Church heresies?
There is great irony in the fact that Chick-Fil-A owned by a Southern Baptist Family has allowed the spirit of Vatican II Catholic chickens to come home to roost and show orthodox, practicing Catholics just what the spirit of Vatican II Catholics have done to our holy Church.
I copy below an article on an administrative assistant to Chicago's Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Ald. Proco “Joe” Moreno, who describes himself as a Catholic sometimes going to Church. This is what this "spirit" of Vatican II Catholic had to say about Cardinal Francis George and his teachings on marriage:
“It’s unfortunate that the cardinal, as often happens, picks parts of the Bible and not other parts,” said Moreno, who added that he was raised Catholic in western Illinois, attended a Catholic grade school and was an altar boy. Moreno said he now occasionally attends church.
“The Bible says many things,” Moreno said. “For the cardinal to say that Jesus believes in this, and therefore we all must believe in this, I think is just disingenuous and irresponsible. The God I believe in is one about equal rights, and to not give equal rights to those that want to marry, is in my opinion un-Christian.”
My comments: This politician is using the "talking points" of the Democrat party as it concerns same sex marriage, that no one has the right to interpret Scripture except those who are promoting same sex marriage! I've heard this mantra time and time again from the talking heads on the various networks when same sex marriage is the topic and religion is brought into it. It is heresy pure and simple and needs to be condemned from the highest sources of our Church!
Like the LWCR, Call to Action groups, Voice of the Faithful, all dissenting groups that oppose the Holy Roman Catholic Church, her pope and bishops in union with him, Moreno is a heretic.
Should not the pope and the bishops in union with him start issuing a "syllabus of errors," censures and excommunications? Moreno has clearly placed himself outside of what is acceptable in the Catholic Church, not just his opinions about civil marriage, but his diatribe against the Cardinal and the Cardinal's legitimate role in explaining and defending the faith.
Folks, the wrong interpretation of Vatican II, one of rupture with our glorious past, has led to Moreno type Catholics and they are now legion in the Church. They are sinking the Barque of Peter and it is way past time for the Magisterium to plug the holes these dissenting Catholics have drilled and throw the ones who drilled the holes overboard.
By Bridget Doyle, Chicago Tribunereporter
11:59 a.m. CDT, August 2, 2012
Chicago Cardinal Francis George has stepped in the ring on Chick-fil-A’s gay marriage controversy in a blog post, criticizing Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s statement that the fast food chain’s values “are not Chicago values.”
“Recent comments by those who administer our city seem to assume that the city government can decide for everyone what are the ‘values’ that must be held by citizens of Chicago,” George wrote on the Archdiocese of Chicago's blog Sunday. “I was born and raised here, and my understanding of being a Chicagoan never included submitting my value system to the government for approval. Must those whose personal values do not conform to those of the government of the day move from the city?”
George went on to write: “Approval of state-sponsored homosexual unions has very quickly become a litmus test for bigotry. … Surely there must be a way to properly respect people who are gay or lesbian without using civil law to undermine the nature of marriage.”
Last week, Ald. Proco “Joe” Moreno, 1st, announced he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store in Logan Square because the chain's top executive has made clear his opposition to gay marriage.
Archdiocese of Chicago spokeswoman Colleen Dolan said George stands by his blog post on what she called “religious freedom” and said this isn’t the first time the cardinal has sounded off on the issue of gay marriage.
“He’s given many talks and has a lot to say on the freedom of religion and the freedom to be Catholic,” Dolan said. “He doesn’t say things frivolously.”
Of the two and a half years the archdiocese has maintained a blog, Dolan said this post has gotten “by far the largest response we’ve seen – most of it overwhelmingly positive.”
An Emanuel spokeswoman on Wednesday declined to comment on George’s remarks.
Moreno, who touched off the debate last week, fired back at George.
“It’s unfortunate that the cardinal, as often happens, picks parts of the Bible and not other parts,” said Moreno, who added that he was raised Catholic in western Illinois, attended a Catholic grade school and was an altar boy. Moreno said he now occasionally attends church.
“The Bible says many things,” Moreno said. “For the cardinal to say that Jesus believes in this, and therefore we all must believe in this, I think is just disingenuous and irresponsible. The God I believe in is one about equal rights, and to not give equal rights to those that want to marry, is in my opinion un-Christian.”
Moreno also called the cardinal’s reference in the blog to a fictional Council Committee on Un-Chicagoan Activities “hyperbole and rhetoric.”
Moreno noted the church scandal surrounding pedophilia among priests, questioning George’s right to the “moral high ground on equal rights.”
Moreno, who has called gay marriage the civil rights issue of our time, also said the mayor and he are not trying to force their values on anyone, but rather to ensure equal rights.
Tribune reporters Hal Dardick and Kristen Mack contributed.
Copyright © 2012, Chicago Tribune
And did Judas inspire this Judas "Catholic" and his vision for the Church which has contributed to the greatest crisis in the Church since the early Church heresies?
There is great irony in the fact that Chick-Fil-A owned by a Southern Baptist Family has allowed the spirit of Vatican II Catholic chickens to come home to roost and show orthodox, practicing Catholics just what the spirit of Vatican II Catholics have done to our holy Church.
I copy below an article on an administrative assistant to Chicago's Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Ald. Proco “Joe” Moreno, who describes himself as a Catholic sometimes going to Church. This is what this "spirit" of Vatican II Catholic had to say about Cardinal Francis George and his teachings on marriage:
“It’s unfortunate that the cardinal, as often happens, picks parts of the Bible and not other parts,” said Moreno, who added that he was raised Catholic in western Illinois, attended a Catholic grade school and was an altar boy. Moreno said he now occasionally attends church.
“The Bible says many things,” Moreno said. “For the cardinal to say that Jesus believes in this, and therefore we all must believe in this, I think is just disingenuous and irresponsible. The God I believe in is one about equal rights, and to not give equal rights to those that want to marry, is in my opinion un-Christian.”
My comments: This politician is using the "talking points" of the Democrat party as it concerns same sex marriage, that no one has the right to interpret Scripture except those who are promoting same sex marriage! I've heard this mantra time and time again from the talking heads on the various networks when same sex marriage is the topic and religion is brought into it. It is heresy pure and simple and needs to be condemned from the highest sources of our Church!
Like the LWCR, Call to Action groups, Voice of the Faithful, all dissenting groups that oppose the Holy Roman Catholic Church, her pope and bishops in union with him, Moreno is a heretic.
Should not the pope and the bishops in union with him start issuing a "syllabus of errors," censures and excommunications? Moreno has clearly placed himself outside of what is acceptable in the Catholic Church, not just his opinions about civil marriage, but his diatribe against the Cardinal and the Cardinal's legitimate role in explaining and defending the faith.
Folks, the wrong interpretation of Vatican II, one of rupture with our glorious past, has led to Moreno type Catholics and they are now legion in the Church. They are sinking the Barque of Peter and it is way past time for the Magisterium to plug the holes these dissenting Catholics have drilled and throw the ones who drilled the holes overboard.
By Bridget Doyle, Chicago Tribunereporter
11:59 a.m. CDT, August 2, 2012
Chicago Cardinal Francis George has stepped in the ring on Chick-fil-A’s gay marriage controversy in a blog post, criticizing Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s statement that the fast food chain’s values “are not Chicago values.”
“Recent comments by those who administer our city seem to assume that the city government can decide for everyone what are the ‘values’ that must be held by citizens of Chicago,” George wrote on the Archdiocese of Chicago's blog Sunday. “I was born and raised here, and my understanding of being a Chicagoan never included submitting my value system to the government for approval. Must those whose personal values do not conform to those of the government of the day move from the city?”
George went on to write: “Approval of state-sponsored homosexual unions has very quickly become a litmus test for bigotry. … Surely there must be a way to properly respect people who are gay or lesbian without using civil law to undermine the nature of marriage.”
Last week, Ald. Proco “Joe” Moreno, 1st, announced he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store in Logan Square because the chain's top executive has made clear his opposition to gay marriage.
Archdiocese of Chicago spokeswoman Colleen Dolan said George stands by his blog post on what she called “religious freedom” and said this isn’t the first time the cardinal has sounded off on the issue of gay marriage.
“He’s given many talks and has a lot to say on the freedom of religion and the freedom to be Catholic,” Dolan said. “He doesn’t say things frivolously.”
Of the two and a half years the archdiocese has maintained a blog, Dolan said this post has gotten “by far the largest response we’ve seen – most of it overwhelmingly positive.”
An Emanuel spokeswoman on Wednesday declined to comment on George’s remarks.
Moreno, who touched off the debate last week, fired back at George.
“It’s unfortunate that the cardinal, as often happens, picks parts of the Bible and not other parts,” said Moreno, who added that he was raised Catholic in western Illinois, attended a Catholic grade school and was an altar boy. Moreno said he now occasionally attends church.
“The Bible says many things,” Moreno said. “For the cardinal to say that Jesus believes in this, and therefore we all must believe in this, I think is just disingenuous and irresponsible. The God I believe in is one about equal rights, and to not give equal rights to those that want to marry, is in my opinion un-Christian.”
Moreno also called the cardinal’s reference in the blog to a fictional Council Committee on Un-Chicagoan Activities “hyperbole and rhetoric.”
Moreno noted the church scandal surrounding pedophilia among priests, questioning George’s right to the “moral high ground on equal rights.”
Moreno, who has called gay marriage the civil rights issue of our time, also said the mayor and he are not trying to force their values on anyone, but rather to ensure equal rights.
Tribune reporters Hal Dardick and Kristen Mack contributed.
Copyright © 2012, Chicago Tribune
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